CR coating and Before 'n' After improved waxoyl Land Rover Defender rustproofing

We are the only genuine rustproofing specialist in the UK. We have 21 x 5 star google reviews (16.4.23) See also 35 year's worth of genuine testimonials here Only Before 'n' After gives a credible guarantee so why would you go anywhere else?

Chris Parkinson (aka Mr. Before 'n' After) has been in this game for over 35 years. Put "Before 'n' After'd" in your ad and you will sell super fast and get top price. This applies particularly to Defenders. Click here to see 2 Defender underbodies 5 years later, lookng as good as the day they were done! Here is how we blast off the rust to achieve that.

click here to see why rust converters DON'T WORK and why Before 'n' After is a RUST CONVERTER FREE ZONE. - click here to see why we don't need to faff around for 3 days "degreasing" your vehicle in order to apply rust converter. Click here to find your vehicle. We only need your vehicle for a day. Borrow our courtesy car and have a great day out visiting the local attractions.

Before ‘n’ After was started in 1987 by Chris Parkinson. Since that time many thousands of Land Rover Defenders , 4 x 4’s and Motor Caravans and Jaguars have been rustproofed with waxoyl and from 2015 with CR coating with 10 year guarantee. To see the full story, click on our history

Book in here Note: If you have some questions please email. I have hearing difficulties so am unable to manage phone converstations. Emails are often answered within the hour. Click here to see 10 reasons why you should only consider Before ‘n’ After for your improved Land Rover waxoyl treatment and CR coating.

Images taken from customer record pages.
To see more, click on the “VIEW OUR WORK” top link above.

No reason to go local and be disappointed. Remember: Before ‘n’ After is the only genuine rustproofing specialist. Only Before ‘n’ After gives a credible guarantee. (Perforation of panels is not covered) 6,000 given since 2002! You could stay in a Premier Inn for as little as £15 or even free! See how here: We lend you a courtesy car and you can have a great time visiting these attractions.

Timeline:

In 2002 Before ‘n’ After started to give 5 year guarantees: “If you see any rust coming through the coating, bring it back and have it retreated free of charge”.

Between 2002 and 2009 around 150 Defenders were given a non-stick, paint coating with 10 year guarantee we called KLEENtect. Not a single guarantee claim! We can’t do KLEENtect anymore because the materials are no longer available. But the CR (heavy duty, abrasion resistant rustproofing wax) coating was introduced in 2015 to replace it, also with a 10 year guarantee. At a third the price of the KLEENtect and unlike the KLEENtect it can be applied to older vehicles as well. Book in here

From 2008 we “improved” waxoyl by adding a special additive at 2% to make the waxoyl impact resistant without any resultant loss in anti-corrosive performance. From experience we have found that this also seems to prevent the waxoyl from oxidising and thinning over time. (Note: Chris Parkinson has a proper knowledge of chemical formulations for rustproofing materials gained through a 2 month full time research stint at the British Science Library in 1997 and we have a successful 2 decades long track record of high performance with our own coatings. See “our history” We do not approve of “special concoctions” of waxoyl mixed with old engine oil and diesel and the like.)

Why go local and be disappointed? Two Really great reasons to travel for your CR coating or Before ‘n’ After improved Waxoyl treatment for your Land Rover or other vehicles

Local Land Rover waxoyl treatment?

It might seem so convenient to go local for your Land Rover or other vehicle waxoyl or dinitrol treatment? At your local garage maybe? Or at one of the gazillion sites across the UK advertised by a so called “rustproofing specialist” who has been claiming “10 years experience” when he currently has only 5 and has been advertising with the phony claim since he started. This so called “rustproofing specialist” lists another 16 specialities on his other website!

There is only one Before ‘n’ After. It’s in Rugby.

But don’t be fooled! There is only one Before ‘n’ After rustproofing, run by Chris Parkinson specializing only in vehicle rustproofing since 1987.(See our history) Chris does not make false claims. At the time of writing (April 2019) Chris has 12 x 5 star google reviews. The imposter has none. See also, Chris’s testimonials here Again, the imposter has none. Only Before ‘n’ After has a Customer Record Page (CRP) for every customer. See here:

2 really great reasons to travel

You may have to travel a little distance to get to us but we have done everything possible to make the visit worthwhile. Here are 2 reasons to make the journey (apart from Chris at Before ‘n’ After being the only real specialist and the only one to offer a credible guarantee of course):

1. You could stay in a Premier Inn for as little as £15 or even free!
See our subsidized deal on hotels and our local Premier Inn price looker upper app here .

2. Borrow the courtesy car and visit one of the really great local attractions. Check out our testimonials where customers often talk about what they did on their day out. We give you a courtesy car so you can have a lovely day out while we do your vehicle. First stop of course must always be Malt Kiln Farm shop, 3 minutes away for the best cooked breakfast you ever ate.

People ask

Be aware that my answers may not be totally disinterested because I have skin in the game. Also bear in mind on the other hand that it is in my interest to promote a reputation for integrity by giving honest answers.

How long does waxoyl treatment last?

How long is a piece of string? Waxoyl’s slogan has always been: “Stops rust and prevents further rust”. This is by and large true. However, how long it stops rust for and how long it prevents further rust depends on these factors:
How rusty the vehicle is in the first place.
The skill, equipment, experience, commitment, (and in the case of a business: integrity etc.) of the rust proofer.
How clean the rust proofer can get the vehicle. (See 2.) In the case of 4x4’s it requires very good equipment and a lot of commitment as well as physical fitness. Rust does not have to be completely removed for the waxoyl to work but heavy rust scabs need to be blasted off and this is really beyond the scope of a diyer or local garage.
The waxoyl coating needs to be thick in order to last. Most diyers and local garages (and some fly by night rustproofing businesses) compensate for poor equipment by adding lots of white spirit to the waxoyl to make spraying easier and this results in a thin film which oxidises and disappears very quickly.

How much to Waxoyl a Land Rover?

Again, how long is a piece of string? A local garage usually charges about £150 plus vat. On a 4x4 a cheap treatment like this will not last long. Only Before ‘n’ After gives a credible guarantee (since 2002). Around 5,000 x 5 year guarantees for waxoyl application since 2002. (And 150 x 10 year guarantees for the proprietary KLEENTECT from 2002 to 2009 and from 2015,2,000 x 10 year guarantees for the proprietary CR coating).

What is the waxoyl treatment on the (classic) Land Rover Defender?

(The new, post 2020 Defender with monocoque, aluminium construction and a full length plastic undertray does not need rustproofing.)

Pressure wash the underbody. In the case of a Defender used off road, or an old, very rusty Defender, pressure washing can take 2 or 3 hours even with good equipment. It requires strength and physical fitness because it’s very tiring. With Defender used a lot off road, the inside of box chassis box sections, rear cross member and front outriggers need to be pressure washed until the water that drains out is clear. This can take an extra hour or more. Heay rust scabs need to be removed.
Dry the vehicle.
Inject cavities. (Chassic, rear cross member, front outriggers). This requires good equipment. It’s essential to inject into the bulkhead as this is a known rust trap on classic Defenders including the Puma which inherits the same bulkhead that was used on previous models. Doors on later Defenders made from pressings rather than an aluminium or steel skin over steel tubes do not corrode. (Before ‘n’ After injects them anyway as it only takes minutes do do.)
Clean off any overspray with white spirit. This can take up to 2 hours to do properly.

Here is how to check that the cavities have been injected properly. Check that the coating is thick and will last. (Before ‘n’ After shoots pictures of each injection spot which are loaded to your Customer Record Page).

If your Defender was rustproofed by a firm and they fail this test you have been robbed! Demand your money back

Here is how to check that the bulkhead on a classic Defender has been properly injected:

The classic Defender bulhead rots from the inside out. If you had your Defender rustproofed by a firm and they fail this test, you have been robbed! Demand your money back.

Can you put Waxoyl on rust?

Yes. That’s what it’s marketed for. It’s always better to apply Waxoyl when the vehicle is new and rust free of course. Waxoyl, like all anti-corrosive coatings is not a magic wand and how well it performs depends on the skill, experience, equipment, commitment, physical fitness and integrity of the person doing the application. No anti-corrosive coating will work on heavy rust scabs and this includes waxoyl. They have to be removed before the application.

What is better than Waxoyl?

The Before ‘n’ After proprietary, CR coating. Before ‘n’ After has been giving 10 year guarantees on this treatment since 2015.

Does Waxoyl really work?

Yes. It really works. But see my other answers. It’s not a magic wand.

Are Land Rovers prone to rust?

Yes. All Land Rovers prior to the new, aluminium Defender had underbodies which rusted badly. These problems are particularly severe on Land Rovers used extensively off road or that live by the sea.

Is it worth getting rust protection on a new car?

Yes. (Bear with me). Why? Modern cars appear to be rust free. That is because with modern manufacturing methods, doors, boot lid, bonnet lid and panels do not corrode under normal circumstances and corrosion on these parts would be an advertising kiss of death for the manufacturer. (Showing my age here, years ago, Fiats were notorious rust buckets in the UK). However, I’ve come to believe that car manufacturers are deliberately neglecting the underbody and running gear, particularly subframes and suspension parts as part of a policy of planned obsolesence because the public does not see the underbody. So, panels no longer need rustproofing but the underbody does.

Do electronic rust modules really work?

My personal and biased opinion as a rustproofer is that they are irrelevant because on modern cars the body does not rust unless the paintwork is damaged by stonechips and the answer in that case is to touch up stonechips as soon as they occur. The underbody on the other hand does rust because they do not have adequate protection from the factory and the corrosion is caused mainly by road salt and abrasion. I very much doubt that an electric rusprotection module would protect better than an anti-corrosive coating. Does the module come with a credible guarantee?

Does electronic rust protection drain a battery?

If the car is driven regularly it should not be a problem, the tiny drain wll be replenished. If the car is left unused for a long period, with or without the module, the battery will be drained.

Will Lanoguard remove rust?

No. It’s a coating which can be applied to fairly light rust to prevent further rust.

Does Lanoguard go off?

It dries very quickly. It’s a thin, water based coating so won’t work on heavy rust. Like diy, heavily diluted with white spirit waxoyl applications, it oxidises and disappears and will need to be renewed, at least annually. With white spirit based materials like waxoyl, as the white spirit evaporates the film shrinks to a fifth of the thickness of the wet film and grips the surface very tightly in a “mechanical keying effect”. Because Lanoguard is water based and dries fairly quickly this effect will be mostly absent.

How often should you use Lanoguard?

At least once a year. It dries clear, so where it’s applied on rust, it’s hard to see if it’s still there and doing its job. Use a fingernail scrape test to check.

Lanolin as an anti-corrosive treatment originated in Australia. I recently received an email from an Australian asking me to send him some CR coating because lanolin coatings do not last very long. Here is one of his emails to me:

Can Lanoguard be brushed on?

Yes. But why would you need to? The spray applicator is very easy to use.

Which is better, Dinitrol or Waxoyl?

I have skin in the game so cannot be called impartial. However, I have tested all the main rustproofing materials, including my own CR coating and both waxoyl and my CR come out way ahead for moisture displacement. Dinitrol performs very poorly in this respect.

In the above test, panels were dipped in saline solution and the rustproofing materials were applied over the solution with a brush, taking care to deposit the material without disturbing the solution too much. The panels were left for a week then photographed. (Please bear in mind that this only tested one parameter: water dispersion.)

Note that Before ‘n’ After has given around 5,000 5 year guarantees on our waxoyl treatment since 2002 and I don’t think any rustproofing firms that use Dinitrol give any kind of guarantee. If you know of one, email me and I will do the correction.

Is Dinitrol better than Lanoguard?

Lanoguard is certainly easier to use. It’s organic, so much better for health and safety and the environement.

Does Dinitrol stop rust?

Dinitrol make a dizzying array of products. If rust is not already present.I’m sure most if not all of them would stop rust at least for a year or two. The Dinitrol product which is promoted to treat rust is their rust converter. Again,I am biased because I don’t believe that even the best rust converters work very well. I’ve tested rust converters and the Dinitrol product came out worst of the ones I tested! Rust converter was applied over the rust, allowed to set and then I scraped through the rust converter with a screwdriver. On all of the test panels the scratch showed untreated rust underneath the rust converter coating.

How long does Dinitrol last on cars?

Good question! Any firm that uses Dinitrol will have a pretty good idea of the answer to this. So if you are thinking about using a firm that uses Dinitrol, ask them what kind of guarantee they can give. If they tell you that yearly inspections are advised that is a good clue!

To see the distance and time needed to get to us, just click on the town or city (live links) nearest to you from the list below. Or just type in your post code here

Levels of service, availabilty, prices and interactive book in here

Aberdeen

Bath

Blackpool

Bournemouth

Brighton

Bristol

Cambridge

Canterbury

Carlisle

Colchester

Dumfries

Dundee

Durham

Exeter

Glasgow

Hull

Inverness

Ipswich

Leeds

Leicester

Liverpool

London

Middlesborough

Newcastle

Norwich

Nottingham

Oxford

Perth

Peterborough

Plymouth

Reading

Southampton

Southend

Sunderland

Swansea

Swindon

Torquay

York

Birmingham

Cardiff

Cheltenham

Chelmsford

Gloucester